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Les attaques à Mumbai (Bombay): Les musulmans qui n'en étaient pas


Les attaques à Mumbai (Bombay): Les musulmans qui n'en étaient pas

Plus les informations sortent, plus cette histoire prend des allures louches. Des musulmans reliés à l'Al Qaïda qui sont super équipés, qui sont passés de la bombe improvisée et l'attaque suicide vers une forme d'attaque sophistiquée avec de l'équipement digne des forces spéciales de l'armée avec un système de communication et d'interception des ondes de communications des médias, agrémenté de prises d'otages? Cela ne fait aucun sens. C'est gens ne boivent pas d'alcool alors que les terroristes à Mumbai (Bombay) en ont fait provision, avec du poulet et autre nourriture, pour tenir pendant trois jours. Un des terroriste a été pris en photo portant un bracelet rouge au poignet droit, une pratique hindoue et non musulmane.

Les États-Unis essaient de déstabiliser le Pakistan depuis plus d'un an, surtout depuis que leur marionnette dictatoriale Mousharaf a été poussé à l'écart du pouvoir par le nouveau gouvernement pakistanais qui lui ne coopère pas aussi bien. Rappelons que le Pakistan a l'arme nucléaire, merci aux États-Unis.

Voir si les musulmans et le Pakistan voudraient s'attirer autant de mauvaise presse et surtout le risque d'être attaqué par l'Inde et les USA qui tous deux possèdent la bombes nucléaires! Obama avait même déclarer vouloir attaquer le Pakistan.

62 attaques militaires à l'intérieur du Pakistan ont été faites par les USA.

62 actes de guerres! Ils ont tué des centaines d'enfants, de femmes et d'innocentes victimes. N'est-ce pas des actes de terrorismes?

Pourquoi est-ce que les médias posent toujours la même question à savoir si l'Al Qaïda se trouve derrière ces actes terroristes et ne posent jamais la question à savoir si c'est les services secrets comme la CIA, le Mossad, le MI5/6 et cie? Pourtant l'histoire est truffée d'exemples de terrorisme d'état.

Maintenant vous devez vous demander qui a vraiment les moyens et les méthodes de parvenir à exécuter une telle opération complexe, et surtout, qui a la motivation, qui profite? Ceci n'est en aucune façon dans l'intérêt des musulmans ni du Pakistan.


NB. Les articles présentés ci-bas incluent ceux publiés hier, en plus d'une grande quantité de nouveaux.

Mumbai Attacks To Be Linked To Obama Target Pakistan?

Coordinated attacks across Mumbai, India’s financial capital, which have killed up to a hundred people and injured hundreds more, are likely to be blamed on a terrorist organization linked to the Pakistani ISI, providing further justification for controversial U.S. bombings inside Pakistani territory and heightened rhetoric against Pakistan on behalf of President elect Barack Obama.

Webmaster's Commentary:

Okay, here are the reason I think this is a false-flag operation.

1. Brand new terror groups have tight budgets. This group, the "Deccan Muhajedeen" (sounds like a sports team, like Cleveland Indians or Cincinnati Pirates) appears from nowhere with a large force, fully automatic weapons, grenades, and intelligence resources on the scale of a nation state.

2. FOX News and CNN are now both reporting that the "terrorists" who took hostages at the Oberoi hotel were specifically seeking people with US and British passports. So, regardless of whatever the "Deccan Muhajedeen" claims their objective may be, the real agenda is to provoke a British and US response.

3. The timing is suspect, occurring just when Bush needs an excuse to kick off one more war of Obama to have to deal with and certainly convenient timing for Israel, which sees Obama as far less likely to engage in more wars for Israel. And, for the last several; weeks Israel has been starving Gaza mercilessly, in advance of an obvious military action, and has kept reporters and even the Papel Envoy out of Gaza.

Mumbai Terror attacks: False Flag to target Pakistan?

With the reports in a frenzy about Terrorists targetting US and UK Nationals, WHERE are the casualties? over 150 dead yet only one British dead! This seems like a False Flag op again comming from an unknown group with the clues being left in a "Scooby Doo" fashion to lead back to Pakistan. How would Pakistan benefit from such an attack? Who WOULD benefit from such an atttack? Find the answer to WHO and you find out WHO is responsible.

Terror attacks in Mumbai; 80 dead, over 250 injured

Webmaster's Commentary:

As usual, a "never before heard of" group is claiming responsibility. FOX News is also reporting that the "terrorists" at the tourist hotel were specifically searching for people with American passports.

This reeks of a false-flag attack to get the US into another war.

Political Destabilization in South and Central Asia: The Role of the CIA-ISI Terror Network

Recent terror attacks in New Delhi on September 13, 2008, raise the questions of who was responsible and for what reason these attacks occurred. Terror attacks in India are not a new phenomenon, however, in their recent past, they can be largely attributed to the actions, finances, training and resources of one organization: The Pakistani Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI). These new bombings bare the same relationship with the ISI as has occurred in the past, and so it must be asked: what is the purpose of the ISI both in Central Asia as well as South Asia?

India Seeking to Bolster Ties with Iran

India says it considers its own national interests and wants to develop relations with Iran without being intimidated by political pressure.

Webmaster's Commentary:

There's a good reason for "someone" to shoot the crap out of Mumbai!

Mossad behind the mass terror attack in Mumbai, India?

When I first read the news of the coordinated attacks on specific places firing automatic rifles and lobbing grenades in the city of Mumbai on the west coast of India that occured Wednesday night, I deduce it is Mossad in the planning and execution of the attack -- by themselves or the deployment of Manchurian candidates -- to provoke international outrage towards the designated enemy. Over 80 persons died and more than 250 wounded.

Mumbai Terrorist Attacks Focus on Westerners. One Attack Near Chabad House. Attacks Continue . . . 78 dead, Many Westerners Taken Hostage

This has Al Qeda written all over it. According to the Television report I heard, the terrorists where looking for Westerners and, specifically, Americans in the attack.

Webmaster's Commentary:

You know; "Al Qaeda (nudge nudge wink wink)"

Intelligence chiefs were expecting Al-Qaeda spectacular

Western intelligence services have been expecting an al-Qaeda spectacular terrorist attack in this crucial period between the end of President George Bush’s administration and the succession of Barack Obama.

Signals intelligence “chatter” in recent weeks indicated that Osama bin Laden’s terrorist organisation might be plotting an attack “to grab the headlines” before Mr Obama takes over in the White House on January 20.

British security and intelligence sources said there had been increasing concern, particularly in the United States, that a “terrorist spectacular” was on the cards.

Happy Thanksgiving? Not for all

Thanks to rising unemployment and food prices, the Washington Post tells us, Americans on food stamps are set to pass 30 million this month for the first time ever, passing the historic high set in 2005 by Hurricane Katrina. Not exactly something for those folks to celebrate.

Webmaster's Commentary:

I am sitting here trying to figure out what to be thankful for.

Obviously I am thankful for my wife and my health.

But I am much poorer this year than last, thanks to the government. Taxes are high and services low. People I knew are dead in a war started with lies that our grandchildren are expected to make the payments on. Why should anyone be thankful for that?

Our nation hovers at the edge of ruin because the government decided to help out the poor suffering corporations by giving them tax credits to make it easier to send American jobs to other countries, forcing Americans to take lower paying jobs, thereby triggering the debt crisis. Thankful for that? I don't think so.

Then the government decides to fix the credit crisis by taking $700 billion away from the working class to give to the banks so that the banks could turn around and loan it back to us at interest. Except that it didn't work out that way; the banks (and Wall Street) just shoved the cash into their golden parachutes. Thanks a whole bunch for THAT one, assholes.

The so-called bailout now stands at $8.2 trillion (with a "t"); a staggering sum of money so large most people cannot comprehend it. It works out to about $100,000 per US Household. Plus accruing interest. No way should anyone (except the corporations getting that cash) be thankful for that.

And here we are today, Thanksgiving, with a false flag operation leading to in invasion of Pakistan in the fond hopes that with a bloody war to distract us, we won't remember how badly the US Government has screwed up this country. No doubt, our leaders(?) are betting the farm that a new world war will get the nation out of a financial mess, just as the previous two world wars did. Frankly, I don't think it will work this time. In Big Mistake I and Big Mistake II, the US was a mighty manufacturing power. This time, we are not. If the US starts WW3, we will ultimately lose.

Thankful? Hell no. Nobody is that much of a schmuck.

Mumbai Attacks Blamed On Al-Qaeda As Pretext For U.S. Military Response

The swiftness with which the media blamed “Al-Qaeda” was staggering, especially considering the fact that the attacks had not even concluded before the boogeyman was whipped out of the closet once more to act as a poster child for the war on terror and allow the TV networks to show lots of blood, panic and authority figures pointing guns at people.

Clues suggest homegrown terrorists in India attack

The attack on India's financial capital bears all the trademarks of al-Qaida — simultaneous assaults meant to kill scores of Westerners in iconic buildings — but clues so far point to homegrown Indian terrorists, global intelligence officials said Thursday.

Spy agencies around the world were caught off guard by the deadly attack, in which gunmen sprayed crowds with bullets, torched landmark hotels and took dozens of hostages.

FLASHBACK: Is Mossad Hand Behind Mumbai Train Blasts?

MOSSAD, an Israeli intelligence agency, is cited as possible organiser of Mumbai train bomb blasts. Immediately after the blast, Mossad was reportedly engaged by Sai Baba Mandir trust to provide security to the famous religious shrine.

Flashback: How Did Mossad Know the London Bombings Were Going to Happen?

...the Mossad office in London received advance notice about the attacks, but only six minutes before the first blast...

India declines Israeli offer of aid delegation to Mumbai

Israel sent a number of intelligence officers to India Thursday to assist in analyzing the major terrorist attack on Mumbai.

Defense Minister Ehud Barak Thursday offered India security, intelligence and humanitarian aid in dealing with the situation.

It appears the Indian government is not interested in high profile security assistance from Israel. Throughout the day, the Homefront Command prepared to send an aid delegation to India, but efforts were halted when it became clear that Mumbai was not enthusiastic about the prospect.

Webmaster's Commentary:

Maybe India figured out who was really behind it all.

Taxi was meant to blow up Mumbai airport

The flyover outside the domestic airport in Mumbai and a taxi driver’s unfamiliarity with the new slip route to the terminal perhaps went a long way in averting a major disaster that could have taken the toll into hundreds on Wednesday night itself.

Webmaster's Commentary:

Looks like the airport was supposed to be the main event!

FLASHBACK: The Real Story Behind the Marriott Attack

Israel's staged Entebbe, terrorist group enabler

[Well organized, military operations such as is happening in India now, certainly appear to happen with outside international expertise.]

Famed Israeli Raid on Entebbe Airport Culminated Shin Bet-Staged Hijacking Plot
By Mark Glenn

"Along with the United States and Britain, Israel has a long and well-established history of assisting individuals and groups said to be responsible for acts of terrorism since the creation of the Jewish state in 1948.

Obama: The U.S. will work “with India and nations around the world to root out and destroy terrorist networks,”

The violence in Mumbai came two months after a suicide bombing on the Marriott Hotel in Pakistan’s capital, Islamabad, killed 40 people and a January attack on the luxury Serena Hotel in the Afghan capital, Kabul, killed eight.

Webmaster's Commentary:

This is starting to remind me of Stephen King's novel "Needful Things" in which the devil tricks an entire town into wanting to kill each other off by setting up dirty tricks; hurtful things done by one party but blamed on another.

Art mimics life?

Mumbai The Mossad Angle

It is 4AM in India right now. I am in Mumbai reporting from the ground. I have not slept a wink. Mumbai is under attack. People and forces who killed Mahatama Gandhi, who demolished the Babari Mosque have triumphed. More than 16 groups of terrorists have taken over Taj, Oberai and several hotels. Hundreds of people are dead. For the first time no one is blaming Muslim organizations. The Mumbai ATS chief Hemant Karkare and other officers of the ATS have been killed.

Experts doubt Al Qaeda link in Mumbai attacks

An e-mail message to Indian media outlets that claimed responsibility for the bloody attacks in Mumbai on Wednesday night said the militants were from the Deccan Mujahideen.

Global terrorism experts said Thursday they had never heard of the group. And based on its tactics, they said, it was probably not a cell or group linked to Al Qaeda.

FLASHBACK: Mossad And India Spy Agency Team Up, Target Pakistan

Janes information group, the world's foremost source on intelligence information, reported in July 2001 that "The Indian spy agency RAW and the Israeli spy agency Mossad have created four new agencies to infiltrate Pakistan to target important religious and military personalities, journalists, judges, lawyers and bureaucrats. In addition, bombs would be exploded in trains, railway stations, bridges, bus stations, cinemas, hotels and mosques of rival Islamic sects to incite sectarianism."

Red Alert: Possible Geopolitical Consequences of the Mumbai Attacks (Open Access)

If the Nov. 26 attacks in Mumbai were carried out by Islamist militants as it appears, the Indian government will have little choice, politically speaking, but to blame them on Pakistan. That will in turn spark a crisis between the two nuclear rivals that will draw the United States into the fray.

Webmaster's Commentary:

Here is the $64,000 question. If an attack by Pakistan on India leads inevitably and unavoidably to counter attacks by both India and the US on Pakistan ... why would Pakistan do it?

Yet another indicator that this is just a false-flag attack, like Gleiwitz, to justify a war of conquest.

Militants who attacked Mumbai came from Pakistan: army official

Militants who staged multiple attacks in the Indian city of Mumbai, killing at least 125 people and injuring hundreds more, came from Pakistan, a senior military official said on Thursday.

Webmaster's Commentary:

Why would Pakistan support such a stupid move???

It makes absolutely zero military, rational, or geopolitical sense, for Pakistan to support an operation like this.

The International Backers of the Mumbai Attacks

Reuters states that at least 80 people have been killed and that, "An organisation calling itself the Deccan Mujahideen claimed it was behind attacks". CNN television is already stating as fact that the Mumbai attacks were funded and supported by foreign sources, implicating Pakistan where President-elect Obama promised to take the so-called "war on terrorism" when he assumes office in January. The attacks which are on-going at this moment set the stage for redeployment of U.S. troops from Iraq to Pakistan as Obama promised. George W.

Webmaster's Commentary:

If true, how amazingly convenient for the next President!

This incident reeks of "Eau de False Flag", and one has to wonder, whoever planned this, if these attacks didn't create quite the carnage the planners were hoping for.

Indian PM says Mumbai militants based 'outside country'

India's prime minister said Thursday that those behind coordinated attacks against Mumbai were based "outside the country" and warned "neighbours" who provide a haven to anti-India militants.

Webmaster's Commentary:

Here comes the frame-up.

India points finger of blame at Pakistan

India pointed a finger on Friday at Pakistani-linked "elements" for the deadly attacks in Mumbai, raising the prospect of a breakdown in the nuclear-armed rivals' peace efforts.

Mumbai Attacks To Be Blamed On Pakistan?

Coordinated attacks across Mumbai, India’s financial capital, which have killed up to a hundred people and injured hundreds more, are likely to be blamed on a terrorist organization linked to the Pakistani ISI, providing further justification for controversial U.S. bombings inside Pakistani territory and heightened rhetoric against Pakistan on behalf of President elect Barack Obama.

following the script

Sure enough, it's Muslims. Or so the media tells me. Apparently the terrorists are unhappy with the treatment of Muslims in India. Their plan, as best I can tell, is to kill Indians and foreigners indiscriminately, set fire to major pubic buildings, and take hostages and refuse to release them until Muslims are treated better. Good thinking. Am I alone in wondering at this disconnect?

Webmaster's Commentary:

No, you are not.

Chopra: Attack prompts tough questions

India at this moment has to contain any reactive violence from the fundamentalist Hindus, which is very likely and possible. So India has to condemn that by not blaming local Muslims. They have to identify the exact groups.

And the world has to be very careful that they don't go after the wrong people. Because if you go after the wrong people, you convert moderates into extremists. It happens every time, and retribution against innocent people just because they have the same religion actually aggravates and perpetuates the problem.


Webmaster's Commentary:

Chopra is correct. It is the US and Israeli actions directed against ALL Muslims that drives moderates into being extremists. They see clearly and correctly that the US and Israel are not interested in peaceful co-existence. They see what is happening in Gaza, they hear the speeches about the "Clash of civilizations", they know the dirty tricks that are played then blamed on Muslims.

Deepak Chopra Blames Washington For Mumbai Terrorist Attacks ...Update: Iran Agrees

Chopra: What we have seen in Mumbai has been brewing for a long time, and the war on terrorism and the attack on Iraq compounded the situation. What we call "collateral damage" and going after the wrong people actually turns moderates into extremists, and that inflammation then gets organized and appears as this disaster in Bombay. Now the worst thing that could happen is there's a backlash on the Muslims from the fundamental Hindus in India, which then will perpetuate the problem. Inflammation will create more inflammation.

Paul V. Rafferty: Terror in Mumbai, India; ‘Qui Bono ?’

It would be absolutely insane for the Government of Pakistan to provoke India into war!

Before we all rush to judgement, let’s allow Indian and Pakistani authorities time to conduct a proper open investigation. Whoever is responsible for the tragedies in Mumbai – and is/are still alive - are simply criminal and must be punished, in accordance with International and Indian Law.

Putin Urges Calm As India Readies Nuclear Forces

Russian Foreign Ministry sources are reporting that Prime Minister Putin has telephoned India’s Prime Minister Manmohan Singh urging him to react to the attacks upon his Mumbai with ‘calm’ after being informed by Singh that he has invoked India’s National Security Act which puts their Nuclear Forces on ‘full alert’.

(Video) Mumbai- A CIA/Mossad Job? (Humor with a serious message)

If you're offended by a few four letter words, don't watch this video from FKN News.


Why CNN is connecting a local ‘terrorist’ attack to Al Qaida and making grounds for US/UK/Israel to muscle into the imbroglio as ‘interested parties’, so as to dictate terms on Indian government. Could it be a classic covert operation of entrapment of India?

Is India being prepared for a localized war with Pakistan?

Media Forced To Backtrack On Al-Qaeda Link To Mumbai Attacks

After brazenly declaring that the Mumbai attacks were the work of Al-Qaeda, the corporate media has been forced to backtrack, while India continues to blame Pakistan in a dangerous escalation of rhetoric between the two nuclear-armed powers.

Bellicose propaganda about Bin Laden being behind the massacre, which was initially propagated by the BBC, London Times and Fox News amongst others, has largely evaporated, with the majority of the establishment press being forced to admit they have no idea who was behind the siege on India’s financial capital.

Hostages found dead at Mumbai Jewish center

Commandos who stormed the Mumbai headquarters of an ultra-orthodox Jewish group found the bodies of five hostages inside, Indian and Israeli rescue officials said, as a fresh battle raged at the luxury Taj Mahal hotel and other Indian forces ended a siege at another five-star hotel.

A delegation from Israel's ZAKA emergency medical services unit entered the building after the raid and reported through an Indian aide that five hostages and two gunmen were dead, a ZAKA spokesman in Israel said. The spokesman had no information on the hostages' identities or whether there were wounded inside.

Webmaster's Commentary:

The corporate media this morning is marching frantically, lockstep, toward fixing the blame for these horrendous attacks on the next country to be up for a US invasion.

I wouldn't bet against that being placed on Pakistan right now.
And if this happen, I would be willing to bet it will happen before Obama is inaugurated.

Battles rage for Mumbai hostages

Locals say the orgy of killings in Mumbai began here. Three men walked into the cafe, drank beer, settled their bills and walked out. Then they fished out guns from their bags and began firing.

Gaffar Abdul Amir, an Iraqi tourist from Baghdad, says he saw at least two men who started the firing outside the Leopold Cafe.

He was returning to his hotel from the seaside with a friend when he saw two men carrying bags and brandishing AK-47s walking in front of them, shooting.

Webmaster's Commentary:

Blonde hair? Punk hairstyles? Beer?


Indian commandos storm Mumbai hotels

"I went into the building late last night," he said. "I got a shock because they were white. I was expecting them to look like us. They fired three shots. I fired 10 back.

Webmaster's Commentary:

We are starting to see more and more reports of blonde-haired white guys doing the shooting in Mumbai, and in this case the Jewish center!

U.S. sends terror investigators to India

A U.S. investigative team headed to Mumbai on Friday, a State Department official said, speaking on condition of anonymity because the U.S. and Indian governments were working out final details of the cooperative effort. The official declined to identify which agency or agencies the team members came from.

Webmaster's Commentary:

Forgive my cynicism, but one has to wonder just what the US team can actually do in this situation better than the Indian intelligence team can. The Indian intelligence apparatus is extremely sophisticated, and capable.

My suspicion is US team is not there to uncover the truth, but manipulate the outcome of these dreadful attacks to serve the US geopolitical agenda.

Battles rage for Mumbai hostages

Maj Gen Hooda said authorities had intercepted conversations between some of the attackers speaking in Punjabi, an apparent reference to Pakistan-based militants.

Earlier reports said the attackers spoke Hindi, indicating they were from India.

Webmaster's Commentary:

The story is changing to fit the agenda of blaming Pakistan.

Why destroy Pakistan?

Ben Gurion on Pakistan, published in the Jewish Chronicle, 1967:

"The world Zionist movement should not be neglectful of the dangers of Pakistan to it. And Pakistan now should be its first target, for this ideological State is a threat to our existence. And Pakistan, the whole of it, hates the Jews and loves the Arabs.

"This lover of the Arabs is more dangerous to us than the Arabs themselves. For that matter, it is most essential for the world Zionism that it should now take immediate steps against Pakistan.

Pakistan intelligence chief agrees to visit India

The head of Pakistan's military intelligence service, the ISI, has agreed to come to India to share information after the attacks in Mumbai by Islamist militants, an Indian government spokesman said.

Webmaster's Commentary:

Pakistan knows that it could very well set up to be the villain in this event, and will be trying to move heaven and earth to demonstrate that it had absolutely nothing to do with this attack.

The Attack in Mumbai II

The cleanup operation in Mumbai are still ongoing as the police and army search and fight through two big hotels that were attacked. The latest casualties numbers are 125 dead, 327 injured.

As said before, there is something weird about these attacks.

Pictures from the Mumbai Attack

Notice the red cord on his right wrist. Tying a red thread or cord around the wrist is a Hindu practice and it is unlikely a Muslim, especially one politicized enough to carry out an attack such as this, would observe it. I think this provides more evidence that this was a false flag operation or at least an attack by a non-Muslim group.

Terrorists Have Food Stocks for Three Days

“They had purchased around two crates of chicken and liquor worth Rs25,000 from two shops in Colaba,” another resident Joseph D’Mello said. “They then entered the Nariman House building and took the Israeli family captive.”

Webmaster's Commentary:

Okay, so they are NOT Muslims.

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